I fucking love "word-hole".

Hey King, that "word-hole" is wholesale theft from 'Brass Eye", that news magazine satire programme I've been telling you to watch for ages. Also, something about a "twisted brainwrong of a one-off man-mental" or something like that. This guy's hate is still pretty great though. I like how, at least in writing about the State of the Union address, he's not complaining just to boost up Howard Dean or Wesley Clark. I'm sick of those guys. Mind you, hearing an mp3 of Dean's pro-wrestler-esque rant/shriek made me laugh harder than anything has in an awfully long time. If he keeps squealing like that then he's got my proverbial vote (a vote that is actually entirely worthless because it's not a real vote).

I don't, however, like the use of the word Mongoloid (even "retarded" is more respectful) nor do I like spelling "fascist" wrong.

I don't understand though. Is it supposed to be more insulting to say "word-hole" than mouth? Discourse, do you have that mp3 you speak of? I'd like to hear it.

"Retarded" is disrespectful? Really? Who is it disrespectful toward? Are you baiting me? In my limited experience, those who are most offended by the word "retard" are conservatives who have been, through whatever twist of fate, thrown in with people who have down-syndrome, either as care-givers, parents, family members, what-have-you, or- worse still- those who have never known a person with d.s., but pride themselves in the knowledge that because some fundamental misfortune has befallen those 'victims', everyone should speak in hushed tones around them. I don't know why their indignation is so grotesque to me, but I'm remembering this radio show where this macho woodsman guy said he understood why everyone made fun of faggots - cause what they did was so gross - but he could never escape the idea that when his friends used those words, what they were actually doing was describing his boy. What struck me about it was that he was way more mortified than any self-respecting fag would ever be. What he was actually saying was "stop being so mean to me!". He was being a pussy. He wasn't standing up for gays, or even himself. He was whining about how fatherhood had treated him. Get over it! Get some new 'friends' already you fucking biggot!

How's Your News?, the best documentary of '01, deals with this superbly. It makes the case that people who have down-syndrome are way happier getting a laugh by referring to their selves as 'retarded' than they are attempting to carefully negotiate the issue of their difference by catering to everyone's overly-sensitive B.S. terminology. They don't feel the politeness as anything other than a kind of condescension to dispel by just saying the thing. Why pretend it isn't there to be said? Retard means slow. Aging is retarded by vitamins. Bush is retarded on foreign policy. The idea that the word only applies to retards - and can never be applied in a way that isn't caustic - is so 1966, DiscourseonaHighHorsce, it makes me think you're crapping all over the grave of Lenny Bruce. Or worse, "defecating" - then entertaining the idea that you can actually get the crap back into your ass when you're done.

The Dean thing is here:
http://dongresin.katgyrl.com/dean-apeshit.mp3
(via, as you can see, dongresin) (I haven't gotten very good at implanting links or whateverthefuck its called).

I was kind of being jocular and precious about spelling and PC nomenclature. That's pretty obnoxious. BUT... saying that "retard" is "just a word" or whatever is so 1996, dude.
The Bush-hating guy wasn't just saying "mongoloid" as a generic pejorative, he was using it explicitly to suggest that Bush has Down Syndrome and because of that is subhuman and incapable of saying something that is true or apt or astute or worth listening to. It doesn't really qualify for those "bullshit PC terminology" arguments.

Truth be told, I wanted to respond to the idea of retard being disrespectful, and because it was your comment I was responding to, Discourse, and because you're the king of the spontaneous diatribe that takes no prisoners and is set off by the tiniest of missteps, and because you hate the irish and the french, and seem to make doing so fun, I thought I'd try out my own rant. I guess it didn't go so hot. I mean, I just thought of what you were saying and Lenny Bruce and something in me broke. But I didn't mean to be so fucking abrasive. Please don't revoke my privileges, Kinger! I think it was semi-justified, in that if the Bush-hating guy wasn't just saying "mongoloid" as a generic pejorative, but was using it explicitly to suggest that Bush has Down Syndrome and because of that is subhuman and incapable of saying something that is true or apt or astute or worth listening to, I mean, that's legit, isn't it? That's the kind of thing you can say. To be sure - and not just obnoxious - retarded people deserve our love and respect, but when they're acting as Presidents, less so. This is my base feeling about Bush, and my feeling beyond that is that anyone saying it's inappropriate to slander him might answer to why they aren't like way more concerned with the larger injustices being perpetrated in Merica's name which have created and generated the far less consequential verbal abuse at hand. Not that Bush tirades are cool or nuthin', but by all accounts if it was Rumsfeld Cheney Wolfowitz Rove and someone with Down Syndrome running the country, we'd be getting the same results. So I think it's fair and balanced, a fine response to a disrespectful administration. I didn't mean your shit was 1968 tho, but if you think about it, it is a compliment. How's Your News?, produced by Parker and Stone, and directed by one seriously enlightened young retard-care-giver, in which it's made clear that "retard" is indeed "just a word," is pure 23rd c!e!n!t!u!r!y!! !,! !!B!a!b!y!

And I said "BS" not "PC". It's "PC" that's '96.

We cherish violent arguments here! No love lost all round, let's hug and make up.

Er, I mean FUCK ALL YOU BUSH-LOVING RETARDS!!!!NNNNNN

Obviously I have a lot to contribute.

Of course you do D. Bringing the sound of ironic anger mixed with mock-exasperation and self-aware tastelessness based upon purposeful undermining of your own sentiments into print ("NNNNNN") is nothing short of groundbreaking.

Have you listened to any of the instant remixes of Dean at www.deangoesnuts.com that Sakamoto mentioned in the Anti-Hit List this week? He recommends Dean vs. James Brown, though I think Dean vs. Outkast (Hey Yeahhh!!!) is superior.

The Hey Yeahhhh!!! is really inspiring.
On a related note, apparently some sort of similar vocal spasm arguably cost the Labour party an odds-on win during a UK election in the early 90's or late 80's or something. Does anyone know anything about this or will I have to actually RESEARCH it.

im doing a project on george bush....
can anyone tell me a bunch of bad stuff bout him?

hello?

if you can
can you send your info to..
ansari_sakina@hotmail.com

cos i tryed to find some shit off google and couldnt find anything...
so.. if you really want to show your hatred..help me..
thanx

Hi Sakina. This isn't really a site about Bush. And not that I care, but the fact that you can't find anything bad about Bush on google tells me that you either don't know how to use google, which is impossible I think, or you have no idea how to do a project on someone. Maybe you should search your own feelings to find out why you hate Bush, and then search google for the things you hate about him and see if anyone does too.